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Offensive Guards |
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Charted comments are mostly
drawn from NFL Draft Scouts.com narratives (shown in black) with
comments from additional sources shown in different colors. BRS =
Red Sporting
News War Room = Orange. USA Today =
Green. Surefire Scouting =
Purple. PFW = Blue |
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Lutui and Wells are fixtures
at guard, though we still maintain that Reggie would be a better fit
at LT and that we need a greater run blocking presence at LG. We
passed on Alan Faneca in free agency, but could get a younger version
in the form of Roy Schuening with our 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft. |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
|
1 |
Branden Albert*, Va. |
6-5
|
316 |
5.17 |
24 |
1.78 |
2.98 |
26
|
9-4 |
4.79 |
-- |
7.98 |
-- |
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Pro
Day
- Ran position drills and kept his combine numbers for everything
else.
BRS
(Gollin) - Has rocketed up the charts - possibly into the Top 10.
Then again, guards (other than perhaps Steve Hutchison) are seldom
worth the notoriety (or buckaroos) given premier LT's.
The
Sporting News War Room - Has first round talent but
hasn't produced at that level.
Surefire
Scouting - A better run blocker than pass protector but is solid
in both areas. Has a nice upside and is ready to contribute as a
rookie.
PFW -
Albert is still raw and will need to make further strength gains
before he is ready to handle NFL defensive linemen.
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Physical |
Has a solid upper body with long arms, large hands, good chest
thickness, flat back, broad shoulders and a strong hand punch,
but could use more lower-body development |
|
Strength |
Strength and explosiveness are evident in his hand punch and hip
roll. |
|
Athleticism |
While he lacks ideal change-of-direction skills, he can lock on
and steer...Shows impressive knee bend for a player of his
stature |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Can gain advantage at the snap with his sudden short burst and
flashes good knee bend...Shows very good sudden force coming out
of his stance...Can generate good explosion off the ball to ride
the defenders out. |
|
Punch |
Has that powerful hand jolt to rock the bull rusher back...Has a
strong hand punch, but needs to use it with more consistency |
|
Drive Blocking |
His strength is evident on run blocks and he is quick to get
position and wall off |
|
Toughness |
Could do a better job playing with true aggression and too often
tries to finesse rather than maul. |
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On the Move |
Tends to get tall in his stance on the move...Trap-blocking
skills are more suited to play guard at the next level...Has
good foot quickness and body positioning to block along the
line, but will lose his base and narrow his stance when reaching
the second level...Has good movement skills blocking in space,
but will lose balance when he gets too tall in his
stance...Needs to maintain balance on the move, as he tends to
overextend in order to stay with his man, resulting in the
defender's hand slaps knocking him off stride |
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Pass Blocking |
Shows good hip-sinking ability when dropping back in pass
protection, as he does a good job in standing flat-footed with a
solid lower base to effectively neutralize the surge in pass
protection...Uses his large, powerful hands well to lock on and
ride the defender away from the play, and keeps his head on a
swivel, always looking to get a piece of another defender after
making the initial block.
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|
Overall Technique |
Will use his upper-body strength instead of staying sound
technique-wise at times, but he does extend his arms with
power...Shows good consistency using his hands to get proper
placement and likes to grab on and jerk the defender to the
ground... and gets good movement coming off the snap when he
keeps his pads down...Can maintain position when he uses his
hands to lock on a ride the opponent wide, as he makes proper
hand adjustments to sustain blocks....Effective trap blocker who
generates movement coming off the ball...Can turn up and seal
inside with good power on initial contact to finish, doing a
nice job of kicking out and sealing with effectiveness...Looks a little awkward with his feet when
trying to adjust to linebackers blocking upfield |
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Intangibles |
Has great work habits and is a coachable talent who takes pride
in doing the extras necessary to improve...Struggled in the
classroom, but has been a good student of the game, taking plays
from the chalkboard to the playing field with minimal
reps...does tire late in games |
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Resembles |
Maurice Williams |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
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2 |
Roy
Schuening, Oregon St. |
6-3
|
313 |
5.31 |
27 |
1.80 |
3.05 |
30 |
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4.54 |
-- |
7.57 |
-- |
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Had a 30-inch vertical jump, ran a 4.54 short shuttle, a 7.57 cone
drill, did position drills and kept his numbers from the combine for
everything
else
Senior Bowl - Lunch pail guy
with great work ethic.
BRS
(Gollin) - One of our needs/system targets. If Wiz and Russ Grimm
are looking for a power-run blocker with a mean, aggressive attitude,
this is our guy (maybe in the second, third or fourth round)
The
Sporting News War Room - Shouldn't be overlooked because of his
lack of athleticism. He's a big strong guard who can lock up and
eliminate his man on in-line blocks and in pass protection.
Surefire
Scouting - Lacks great measurables, athleticism and speed but
makes up for it with his tenacious play. He will be a solid starter
for his future team.
PFW -
Schuening plays physical and can be nasty. Versatility could improve
his value. Has the toughness to develop into a starter.
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Physical |
Has a thick, well-proportioned frame with solid upper-body mass,
well-defined arms and legs, wide waist and hips and a frame that
can carry at least another 15 pounds of bulk |
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Strength |
S |
|
Athleticism |
Shows very good balance and body control ...Has the knee bend
and lower-body strength to anchor in pass protection...Lacks the
change-of-direction agility you look for from a lineman working
into the second level. |
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Quickness/Explosion |
Has good quickness off the snap to seal the shaded
defender...Can gain advantage with his first step and
aggressively hits on initial contact, driving hard with his legs
to get movement |
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Punch |
Can jolt the defender with his hand punch, but lacks
consistency...Will short arm at times and must learn to use his
hand punch better to shock and jolt....Extends his hands well to
separate and has made slight improvement with his punch, but
must work on improving his pop and shiver |
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Drive Blocking |
More of a wall-off type of drive blocker, but showed better
ability to follow through with his blocks as a senior, as he
learned to use his reach to keep defenders away from his body. |
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Toughness |
Plays with true aggression, giving total effort until the
whistle |
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On the Move |
Has just adequate blocking ability in space, but is an
aggressive in-line blocker...Lands on second-level defenders
with good force and gets out in front on short pulls (not as
effective folding linebackers when having to run long distances) |
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Pass Blocking |
Has good recovery agility vs. stunts, doing a nice job when
playing flat-footed...Can
be pushed back by a quick bull rush...When he gets too tall in
pass protection, he could be walked back into the
pocket....lacks the foot movement and kick-slide to mirror vs.
edge rushers in pass protection...Better blocking at the line of
scrimmage, as he does not always take good angles and struggles
when he takes on speed moves in space |
|
Overall Technique |
Has good field vision, showing alertness picking up the blitz
and twists |
|
Intangibles |
Hard worker in the training room and has taken to his role of
mentoring the younger players...as good communication skills
working on double teams with his center and tackle...Has a good
grasp of the playbook, but does go through mental lapses on the
field |
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Resembles |
Jahri Evans |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
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3 |
John Greco, Toledo |
6-4
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303 |
5.15 |
30 |
1.81 |
3.04 |
26
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9-0 |
4.63 |
-- |
7.78 |
-- |
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Pro Day
-
Ran the 40 in 5.15. He had a 32-inch vertical jump, 4.63 short shuttle
and 7.78 cone drill. He stuck with his combine numbers for long jump
and bench press.
BRS
(Gollin) - Also fits the Cardinal system and, in fact, is a bit
more athletic than Schuening.
The
Sporting News War Room - An attention-grabber with his fierce
competitiveness and athletic ability.
Surefire
Scouting - No write up
PFW -
A tough, dependable, hard working overachiever who could develop into
a starter. Could be tried at RT
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Physical |
Has a
thick frame with good bone structure and room to carry at least
another 10 pounds of bulk...Does not have great muscle tone in
his arms or legs but is more thick than he is sloppy....Lacks
the athleticism and long arms (29 5/8-inch length) to be
effective reaching and mirroring edge rushers on the left side.
Might be a better fit back at right tackle or inside at guard,
where his limited reach would not be as exposed as it would be
at left tackle |
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Strength |
Shows
good natural power (420-pound bench press)...Uses his size and
lower-body strength to get movement off the snap, especially
when working in-line...Has the upper-body strength and body lean
to engulf smaller defenders...Has the strength to finish |
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Athleticism |
Demonstrates good knee-bend and recovery quickness to protect
the pocket and adequate change-of-direction agility...Has the
knee-bend to stay low in his pads off the snap. |
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Quickness/Explosion |
Lacks
explosion, but has a decent initial step...Won't fire out of his
stance and get to the second level quickly, but is patient
waiting for linebackers to target....Has just adequate quickness
off the snap, relying more on his patience to let the defender
make the first move before countering......Does not have the
timed speed to get on defenders with quickness when trap
blocking. |
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Punch |
Must
do a better job with hand placement, but has a punishing hand
punch that will generally knock the defender off-balance...His
explosive jolt is one of his best assets |
|
Drive Blocking |
More
tenacious drive blocker than Nick Kaczur with great lower-body
strength to get leverage and widen the rush lanes...Plants his
foot in the ground and moves his feet well to get a strong push
off the snap, showing a good concept for taking proper angles
for the running game...In straight-up blocking, he is a good
mauler |
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Toughness |
Plays
with true aggression, going full blast until the whistle |
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On the Move |
Best
on the short pull, as he looks a bit sluggish trying to go long
distances... |
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Pass Blocking |
Relies
more on patience in pass protection...Has adequate anchor and
slide in pass protection, showing the vision to read and react
to twists and games. Will be better when he improves his hand
placement...Good working down the line of scrimmage, but needs
to be lighter on his feet sliding back in pass protection.
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Overall Technique |
Must
do a better job of maintaining hand placement. Will come off
some blocks early and, when he gets his hands on the outside, he
will lunge when punching...Must do a better job coming back to
the inside in his pass set, as he does not slide back fluid
enough or keep his hands inside his frame to counter throughout
the play.
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Intangibles |
Quiet
leader on the field, but will not hesitate to take a teammate to
task for a poor performance...Hard worker in the weight room,
taking well to hard coaching...Intelligent athlete who is quick
to locate stunts and shows good patience on twists...Easily
takes plays from the chalkboard to the field |
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Resembles |
Nick
Kaczur |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
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4 |
Chilo
Rachal*, USC |
6-5 |
306 |
5.10 |
27 |
1.81 |
3.02 |
26 |
8-10 |
4.84 |
-- |
8.07 |
-- |
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Pro Day
- Had a 28-inch vertical jump, 4.84 short shuttle, 8.07 cone drill,
ran position drills and kept everything else from combine.
BRS
(Gollin) - Not quite at the level of Schuening or Greco but out of
the same mold. Former USC teammates Leinart and Lutui can probably add
insight.
The
Sporting News War Room - Declared for the draft because of
financial hardships. With a couple of years to develop, he should
become a productive NFL starter in any kind of offense.
Surefire Scouting - Quick off the snap. Has shown upside and his
far from being a finished product, but he could be a great value
on draft day after a season where he wasn't 100% healthy.
PFW
- Plays with more power than quickness and, barring injury, has the
ability to perform at a high level for years.
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Physical |
Solid build with broad shoulders, wide chest, thick thighs and
calves and long arms |
|
Strength |
Has natural strength and uses his size well to land on targets
in the short area |
|
Athleticism |
Has a solid base, keeping his feet while showing proper knee
bend when redirecting...Shows good lateral agility, but needs to
keep his feet when working in space |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Plays with good initial quickness and strength coming out of his
stance sharply while keeping his feet moving...Forceful striker
with good pop and explosion coming out of his stance |
|
Punch |
Needs to improve his hand punch (has good strength), as he shows
some good hitting ability upon contact, but is not a consistent
striker when he lets his hands get outside his frame....His
short-area kick slide, hand usage and punch are very effective
in his pass set |
|
Drive Blocking |
Has the strength to blow a lethargic defender off the ball, as
he gets into his man quickly......Good incline blocker who
consistently drives and steers defenders away from the
play...Needs to refine his drive-blocking skills (team generally
emphasized a pass-oriented attack) |
|
Toughness |
Play |
|
On the Move |
Has the foot speed to get out and attack second-level
defenders...Shows good body control on the move...Adjusts
smoothly on the move and gets good fits on run blocks, as he
works hard to sustain and finish (will block until the
whistle)...Gets good production on the short pulls, as he runs
under control, doing a nice job of anticipating and adjusting to
the linebacker's moves at the second level |
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Pass Blocking |
Alert
to picking up stunts...Shows a good feel for pressure on the
pulls and traps...will explode on the rise to shock defenders,
creating movement to neutralize the bull rush...Shows patience
waiting for plays to develop (will let the defender come to him
rather than overextend) |
|
Overall Technique |
Quite
active with his hands to lock on, using his arm extension to
turn and wall off his man..Uses his hands to redirect and
understands how to neutralize stunts and blitzes...Stays on his
feet and is able to avoid piles while sustaining his blocks. |
|
Intangibles |
Versatile blocker with experience at guard and tackle...Has
adequate football intelligence and learns plays with minimal
reps...Hustles and works to finish, playing with good
aggression...Understands position...Has had several knee issues
that need further medical evaluation. |
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Resembles |
Kris Dielman |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
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5 |
Jeremy Zuttah, Rutgers (C) |
6-3
|
308 |
4.98 |
35 |
1.74 |
2.88 |
31 |
8-10 |
4.54 |
-- |
7.60 |
-- |
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Pro Day
-
Had a 31-inch vertical jump, ran position drills and kept everything
else from the combine.
BRS
(Gollin) - I'm from NJ and have a soft spot in my heart for guys
coming out of coach Schiano's program at Rutgers. At first glance, has
the profile of your typical overachiever - until you look at his size
and his workout numbers (which reflect better athleticism than some of
the other guard prospects). So we're elevating his rating somewhat..
The
Sporting News War Room - Has what it takes to be a solid NFL
starter at guard. He should be a good Day 2 value.
Surefire Scouting - A highly consistent, experienced college
player who may have reached his peak. His best opportunity to carve a
niche at the next level is at center.
PFW
- Smart overachieving college RT.
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Physical |
Viewed
as a bit of a (G/T) 'tweener |
|
Strength |
Gets
by on quickness and toughness, rather than strength, as a
close-quarter run blocker |
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Athleticism |
Good overall athleticism... Viewed by some as athletic and
instinctive enough to project best inside at center -- a
position he has never played |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Good initial quickness off the snap...Lacks true explosiveness
to his game |
|
Punch |
Uses his hands well to position and sustain blocks |
|
Drive Blocking |
No info |
|
Toughness |
Has
the combination of quickness, instincts and nastiness scouts are
looking for |
|
On the Move |
No info |
|
Pass Blocking |
Hasn't
given up a sack since 2005 |
|
Overall Technique |
Keeps his shoulders square to the defender and has the foot
quickness to compete on the outside |
|
Intangibles |
High effort player who wants to be good. ...A versatile
offensive lineman with experience at both guard and tackle
positions...could prove to be a late-round find as a valuable
swingman. |
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Resembles |
No info |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
|
6 |
Shawn Murphy, Utah. St. |
6-3
|
314 |
5.14 |
30 |
1.88 |
3.10 |
27 |
8-3 |
4.44 |
-- |
7.37 |
-- |
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Pro Day
-
Ran the 40 in 5.14 and 5.15, had a 27-inch vertical jump, 4.44 short
shuttle and 7.37 cone drill.
BRS
(Gollin) - Fits the profile, but the talent begins to drop off
slightly here. Will need time to coach up.
The
Sporting News War Room - Is still learning the guard position
after coming over from the defense. It's rare to see a player with
such limited experience display such good instincts and awareness.
Surefire Scouting - No write up
PFW
- Stood out at East - West Shrine practices for his ornery disposition
and shows the desire to develop into a solid pro.
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Physical |
Wide shouldered athlete with room for additional growth. |
|
Strength |
Despite good weight room strength, Murphy relies more on his
athleticism and grit than strength at the point of attack. |
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Athleticism |
No info |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Good initial quickness off the snap |
|
Punch |
No info |
|
Drive Blocking |
No info |
|
Toughness |
No info |
|
On the Move |
Can position and sustain blocks at the initial and second
levels |
|
Pass Blocking |
No info |
|
Overall Technique |
No info |
|
Intangibles |
Raw athlete who has moved from tackle to guard past two years,
but has flashed potential at both positions...Viewed by some as a 'tweener
who lacks the footwork for tackle or the physicality for
guard...Will enter the NFL as an older prospect (25)...Level of
competition is a concern - struggled with the jump in talent at
the East-West Shrine Game. |
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Resembles |
No comments |
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
|
7 |
Mike
McGlynn, Pitt |
6-4 |
311 |
5.39 |
30 |
1.90 |
3.12 |
28
|
8-6 |
4.74 |
-- |
7.58 |
-- |
|
Pro Day
-
Kept his numbers from the combine and Pitt's earlier pro day. Ran
position drills and looked very good.
BRS
(Gollin) - Solid citizen who fits the power-profile - the kind of
grinder that you need a few of on any O-line unit.
The
Sporting News War Room - A tweener prospect - best suited for
guard in the NFL but will likely be tried at tackle first.
Surefire
Scouting - Highly consistent 4 year starter...While he played
primarily RT, he is best suited to shift inside to guard in the pros
due to his lack of ideal athleticism. His versatility is an added
bonus.
PFW -
A big strong rumbler who can outmuscle defenders, McGlynn showed the
toughness needed to earn a starting job in the trenches and may have
the ability to stay outside with considerable chip help.
|
Physical |
Has good bone structure, with a thick midsection, wide hips, big
back, thick thighs and calves... Needs to add more muscle tone
to his midsection |
|
Strength |
Uses his upper-body strength well to get into the defender's
jersey coming off the snap |
|
Athleticism |
Demonstrates excellent athletic ability...very nimble for a
lineman and while he has just adequate timed speed, he gets out
on traps and pulls in a hurry, maintaining balance throughout
his stride...Shows good balance and agility for the position to
also perform capably as a pulling guard...Natural knee bender
who does a nice job of keeping his pads down due to his lateral
agility and loose hips |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Good
initial explosion off the line... |
|
Punch |
His torn labrum affected him later in 2006, as he could not stun
his man at times with his punch, but he is completely recovered
and should continue to improve in this area....Tremendous hand
quickness to lock on, steer out and control his man |
|
Drive Blocking |
Good short-yardage blocker, staying low in his pads while
driving with his legs to clear the rush lanes......Stays on feet
with run blocks, play flat-footed with good balance and a low
pad level to widen and sustain the rush lane...Shows good pop on
run blocks, but even with good lateral range, he needs to show
better consistency opening his hips to stay on blocks longer. |
|
Toughness |
Play |
|
On the Move |
Nimble working in space and does a good job of locating and
neutralizing second-level defenders...Plays with good lateral
quickness, especially when asked to get in front on traps and
pulls, making some teams feel he could be an ideal offensive
guard |
|
Pass Blocking |
Takes good sets in pass protection and plays under control,
keeping a wide base and his head on a swivel to pick up
stunts...Gets out of his stance with good pad level and hand
punch to neutralize the wide defensive ends...Plays with good
balance and a strong good base, doing a nice job of playing with
a flat back and his pads down...Has impressive strength to lock
up and is very good at sustaining his feet on the move. |
|
Overall Technique |
Places his hands well, doing a nice job of leaning into his man
to steer the opponent wide...Very conscious of working in unison
with his guards and tight ends to prevent backside pressure on
the pocket |
|
Intangibles |
Alert on the field and excels at picking up stunts and
games...With his ability to retain plays and know all of the
position assignments up front, he could be a natural calling
blocking assignments at center |
|
Resembles |
Mark Tauscher |
|
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Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
|
8 |
David
Hale, Weber State |
6-5
|
310 |
5.25 |
25 |
1.82 |
3.03 |
39 |
8-3 |
4.63 |
-- |
7.51 |
-- |
|
Pro Day
-
Had a 29-inch vertical jump, 4.63 short shuttle, 7.51 cone drill, and
25 reps. He let his other numbers stand from the combine, but he did
not run position drills.
BRS
(Gollin) - Worth a later round looksee.
The
Sporting News War Room - Either he'll be overvalued due to his
excellent intangibles or undervalued because he's not a premier
athlete.
Surefire Scouting - No write up
PFW
- Very tough over-aged college RT
|
Physical |
Wide shouldered, proportionate frame |
|
Strength |
Flashes a strong anchor |
|
Athleticism |
Marginal foot speed and only adequate overall athleticism...Can
get to the second level, but lacks the body control to sustain
blocks against top notch athletes. |
|
Quickness/Explosion |
Good initial quickness off the snap |
|
Punch |
Flashes explosiveness in his hand punch |
|
Drive Blocking |
Physical run blocker who uses his hands well to engage and
control the defender |
|
Toughness |
A
physical presence who plays with technique and determination |
|
On the Move |
No info |
|
Pass Blocking |
Effective pass blocker...lateral agility to mirror defenders in
pass protection...struggles against speed rushers |
|
Overall Technique |
Despite his size and anchor, doesn't always play with leverage
and can be walked back to the quarterback. |
|
Intangibles |
Strong
week of practice at right tackle in the East-West Shrine Game. |
|
Resembles |
No info |
|
|
Rk |
Name/School |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
WU |
|
9 |
Andrew Crummey, Maryland |
6-4
|
306 |
5.44 |
28 |
-- |
-- |
|
|
-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
|
Pro Day
-
Was unable to run, jump or do position drills due to a foot injury.
Did 28 reps at the bench press…
BRS
(Gollin) - Injury questions render him a borderline late-rounder
or UDFA.
The
Sporting News War Room - The type of lineman people tend to write
off because he has questionable athleticism. However his consistency
and production become more impressive with further film evaluation
Surefire Scouting - No write up
PFW
- A competitive short area mauler who is best in a phone booth.
|
Physical |
Rare size for the guard position...Legitimate NFL size |
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Strength |
Lacks bulk and strength in his upper body |
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Athleticism |
Lacks
prototype athleticism...Lacks lateral quickness to mirror
quicker defensive tackles and struggles to recover if beaten
initially...Relies on his intelligence and technique to be
effective and has only marginal overall athleticism |
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Quickness/Explosion |
Good initial quickness. ... Lacks great pop |
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Punch |
Good
hand placement and strength to control and steer the defender...Crummey
is able to consistently block his man due to his strong hand
play and understanding of blocking angles.. |
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Drive Blocking |
No info |
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Toughness |
Toughness and nastiness have been questioned in the past. |
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On the Move |
Good quickness to get to the second level and can block the
moving target |
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Pass Blocking |
No info |
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Overall Technique |
No info |
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Intangibles |
Broken left fibula suffered last season will require further
medical evaluation...Strong week at the East-West Shrine Game
eases concerns about broken leg |
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Resembles |
No info |
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Rk |
Name/School |
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