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Quarterback |
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Charted comments are mostly
drawn from NFL Draft Scouts.com narratives (shown in black) with
comments from additional sources shown in different colors. BRS =
Red Sporting
News War Room = Orange. USA Today = Green.
Surefire Scouting =
Purple |
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The addition of St.
Pierre as our #3 solidifies our positions. There are also reports that the
club may re-sign Hasselbeck. While there is no pressing urgency to add more
QB depth, adding a raw athletic type with tremendous potential (like a Josh
Johnson) if available after round 4 might make a lot of sense. |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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1 |
Josh
Johnson, San Diego |
6-2
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214 |
4.56 |
-- |
1.57 |
2.64 |
34 |
9-3 |
4.43 |
-- |
7.57 |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Ran position drills only and stuck with all of his numbers from the
combine
BRS (Gollin)
- A radical upgrade up to #1, but really not when you consider what Cardinals
might look for in a young QB to develop. Smart kid with Vince Young
athleticism and potential who can be groomed to emerge as something
really special. Cards don't need a high profile rookie QB at this
time, but would be well advised to groom a high-upside QB as a #3 or
#4.
Sporting
News War Room - an elite athlete, however there is much to be done
to refine his skills. He has a good release but needs the footwork to
match it in order to become a legitimate NFL passer
Surefire
Scouting - Johnson may be a small school product but he played in
a pro-style west coast offense under a former NFL QB and is advanced
in the mental aspects of the game. He lacks bulk and does not have
terrific arm-strength but his positives far outweigh his negatives. He
possesses the accuracy, decision-making and leadership to become a
starter, preferably in a west coast system.
PFW -
Johnson's 43 to 1 TD to Interception ratio is rare, but could be
misleading given the low level of competition he's faced. Will need at
least several years to develop.
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Physical |
Lean, angular frame.
Must add bulk. Lost no quickness adding 10 lbs a year ago. Tight
gut. Toned calfs and thighs. Minimum body fat. Just average
height for dropback thrower |
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Leadership |
Vocal on field
(reminds some scouts of Brett Favre) |
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Reading Defense |
Good vision. Makes all
the required reads and checks. |
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Pocket Presence |
Cool under pressure.
Has feet to step up to avoid outside pressure |
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Game
Mgt |
No info |
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Setup Footwork |
Sets up quickly and
smoothly |
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Release Point |
3/4 delivery with
compact motion |
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Gen'l Accuracy |
Good overall but ball
will wobble when he fails to set feet properly |
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Arm
Strength |
Excellent |
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Short Throws |
Must work on timing |
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Deep
Balls |
More comfortable
airing it out in vertical game than he is dinking and dunking.
Throws 40-yard ropes with ease. |
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Deep
Out |
No info - our
assumption is that he has the arm strength to make this throw |
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Mobility |
Quick, mobile and can
throw on the move. Has second gear. Slides and adjusts well.
Will lower head and bull for extra yardage rather than head for
the sidelines |
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Resembles: |
Randall Cunningham |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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2 |
Joe Flacco, Deleware |
6-6
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237 |
4.87 |
-- |
1.72 |
2.80 |
29 |
9-2 |
4.28 |
-- |
6.83 |
-- |
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Pro Day - Flacco measured in at 6-6 ¼, 237 and ran position
drills, but stuck with the rest of his numbers from the combine.
Senior Bowl: (Despite following comments by Pro Football Scouts, I
liked what I saw - big kid with a strong arm and quick release).
PFS:
"Flacco struggled throughout 's practice. He was very deliberate in
his throwing motion and stared down his primary receiver, which
allowed defenders to break on passes and led to a number of his passes
being off-target."
BRS (Gollin)
- Huge physical upside. Different types of QB's succeed (or fail)
based on a wide variety of factors, ranging from athleticism and
mobility to decision-making and reads. Flacco is a very big man who
can throw the ball through a barn door. This alone has earned him this
rating; however it will be up to him to prove he has the right stuff
between the ears and shoulder blades to make it big in the pros.
Sporting
News War Room - Flacco flew under the radar until the Senior Bow.
However the first NFL GM who realizes Flacco's starting potential
could get his team a steal.
Surefire
Scouting - Scouts will drool over his size and arm strength;
however, he will need some time to transition before he can be
expected to contribute.
PFW -
Best trait is his exceptional arm strength. Will always need a strong
offensive line and supporting cast to function.
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Physical |
Tall, rangy frame.
Losing 10 lbs would improve mobity. Marginal muscle definition.
Thin thighs |
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Leadership |
Has teammates' respect
but needs to improve here |
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Reading Defense |
May have more than a
few blind spots. Has improved presnap reads |
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Pocket Presence |
Does not always sense
pressure - especially from backside |
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Game
Mgt |
Self taught QB from
poor HS program. Has much to learn. |
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Setup Footwork |
Shotgun type. Must
improve setup. Sets feet well when making throws |
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Release Point |
High. |
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Gen'l Accuracy |
Tends to spray ball
when under pressure. |
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Arm
Strength |
Excellent |
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Short Throws |
Good zip and accuracy
when he sets feet. Most interceptions come from sideline throws
and tipped balls. |
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Deep
Balls |
Great deep |
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Deep
Out |
Very accurate |
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Mobility |
Awkward on move. May
lack foot-speed to escape pressure |
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Resembles: |
Derek Anderson |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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3 |
Matt Ryan,
Boston Coll. |
6-4
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222 |
4.96 |
-- |
1.68 |
2.87 |
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4.52 |
-- |
7.41 |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Stuck
with all his numbers from the combine. Ran position workout
BRS (Gollin)
- The flip side of Flacco. Reminds us of Joe Montana; however lots
of brainy and gutty QB prospects who lack elite athleticism wind up
being marginal. You just never know.
Sporting
News War Room - He has the physical skills, intelligence and
confidence to become a great NFL starter
Surefire
Scouting - While he lacks overall strength, Ryan is comparable to
Ben Roethlisberger in many areas and will likely continue his
development into a championship caliber QB.
PFW -
Should develop into a franchise QB who could easily be the first
player drafted. |
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Physical |
Tall, lean (room to
add 10 lbs), good muscle tone |
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Leadership |
Very Good |
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Reading Defense |
Very Good |
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Pocket Presence |
Very Good |
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Game
Mgt |
Very Good |
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Setup Footwork |
Improved but must
plant feet better |
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Release Point |
High enough |
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Gen'l Accuracy |
Very Good - especially
on move |
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Arm
Strength |
Long throws tend to
flutter |
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Short Throws |
Good zip. Accurate |
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Deep
Balls |
Most of his mistakes
here. Balls tend to flutter. |
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Deep
Out |
Can make throw |
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Mobility |
Good |
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Resembles: |
Rich Gannon |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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4 |
Brian
Brohm, Louisville |
6-3
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232 |
4.69 |
-- |
1.68 |
2.77 |
30 |
9-6 |
4.41 |
-- |
7.14 |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Ran the 40 in 4.69 and 4.70, had a 4.41 short shuttle, ran position
drills and kept everything else from the combine. Looked good in
passing workouts -- threw 75 passes, lining up in 5-receivers sets as
well as two-TE sets
BRS (Gollin)
- Considered by many to be the most "ready on day one" prospect in
this draft
Sporting
News War Room - In addition to his strong accurate arm, he has
both the mental and athletic acumen to become a terrific starting QB
early in his NFL career.
Surefire
Scouting - He will likely be overdrafted. That aside, he would be
a good fit for a team such as the Rams.
PFW -
Has been very productive in a high-profile successful program and has
shown he can function in 2 different offenses. Could develop into a
functional starter with a lot of talent around him but will always
leave teams wanting more. |
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Physical |
Tall,
well-proportioned frame. Adequate muscle tone in upper body.
Strong enough to absorb punishment |
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Leadership |
Knows the offense as
well as the coaches. Quick to grasp most complex of systems.
Could be more vocal on the field. |
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Reading Defense |
Can make all the reads
and progressions. Picks up presnap reads immediately as he
settles under center. Excels at going through progressions and
hitting secondary targets |
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Pocket Presence |
Good judgment in
pocket. Shows patience but seldom holds ball too long.
Spreads ball around well. |
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Game
Mgt |
Has total confidence
of coaches in setting up & executing game plans |
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Setup Footwork |
Very good feet and
balance. Good mechanics setting up after the snap, planting his
feet and setting up quickly. |
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Release Point |
Inconsistent - he's
most effective when he releases high. Needs to refine release
point. Tends to lower the ball to his chest and wind up
when attempting long throws. |
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Gen'l Accuracy |
Nothing specific said |
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Arm
Strength |
Decent, but does not
have a cannon. |
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Short Throws |
Good zip to sidelines.
Can throw across body. Sometimes will hurry his throws |
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Deep
Balls |
Pretty accurate (very
accurate at laying the ball over the top or down the seam)
but does not have a cannon. |
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Deep
Out |
Nothing specific said |
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Mobility |
Lacks foot speed. Good
COD to escape pressure. Not much of a running threat, but can
scramble for yardage when needed to |
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Intangibles |
Very coachable.
Doesn't want preferential treatment (wants to be one of the
guys) |
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Resembles: |
Drew Brees |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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5 |
Colt Brennan, Hawaii |
6-2
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218 |
4.90 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
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-- |
-- |
-- |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Brennan
injured his hip during a Senior Bowl practice, and it was recently
announced that he would have labrum surgery on April 7. It will be
about eight weeks before he can run and 12 weeks until he can work
out. Still, he did throw 88 passes at this workout.
BRS (Gollin)
- The talent plateau drops off about right before here.
Sporting News War Room - NFL stock is hurt by his small frame and
poor performance at the Senior Bowl. He must also overcome the stigma
that is attached to run & shoot quarterbacks who tend to flame out
quickly in the pros. Still, Brennan has enough athleticism, poise and
accuracy to develop into a productive NFL quarterback.
Surefire Scouting - Several unknowns - such as Brennan's ability
to adapt to a pro-style offense, take snaps from under center and make
NFL reads - limits his overall value.
PFW
- An overrated product of June Jones' spread offense has been spoiled
in the system and will struggle to adapt to an NFL playbook that
requires him to do more than hit underneath zones and let the
receivers run with the ball.
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Physical |
Tall lanky frame with
good muscle def. Could add 20 more pounds without losing
quickness. Overall core strength is marginal. |
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Leadership |
Respected leader.
Doesn't rattle. |
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Reading Defense |
Adjusts well to
defensive coverage. Good at progressions and check downs. |
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Pocket Presence |
Good huddle presence.
Makes quick decisions. Slides and adjusts to pocket pressure
with ease. But can be patient in pocket when he needs to. |
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Game
Mgt |
Good at taking plays
from chalkboard to the field |
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Setup Footwork |
Quick to set up into a
position to drive the ball despite working more from shotgun
than under center. Footwork must become more consistent (Balls
wobble when he throws off wrong foot). |
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Release Point |
Quick release. Will
vary his release point from over the top (when in the pocket)
to 3/4 (when on the move). When release point is too low, he
gets too many balls batted down. |
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Gen'l Accuracy |
"One of the most
accurate passers in the history of college football." |
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Arm
Strength |
Good enough to stretch
defenses & strong enough to air it out. |
|
Short Throws |
Better timing and
accuracy when he's throwing short to intermediate. |
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Deep
Balls |
Good trajectory, but
needs to step into them better. |
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Deep
Out |
No specific comments |
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Mobility |
Enough valid speed to
keep defenses honest. Very mobile out of pocket - rollout
threat. Can throw on the move |
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Resembles: |
Alex Smith |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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8 |
Erik
Ainge, Tennessee |
6-5
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225 |
4.99 |
-- |
1.72 |
2.85 |
22 |
8-11 |
4.61 |
-- |
7.52 |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Kept everything from the combine. Ran position drills.
BRS (Gollin)
- Maybe it's just the famous family name, but I just get the
feeling there's something lacking that undermines his bonafides..
Sporting News War Room - He's not flashy but he doesn't make many
mistakes either, which gives him an upside as a game-managing passer.
Surefire Scouting - If Ainge can remain healthy, he has an
intriguing upside. He has the tools to become a solid starter in the
future, but that will take some time to develop.
PFW
- His feet, delivery and velocity seem slow for the pro game but his
experience will still pique interest.
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Physical |
Frame is more
"basketball" than "football."Can carry an additional 10 lbs but
needs to improve muscle tone. Big hands. |
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Leadership |
Smart instinctive
athlete with good grasp of playbook. Puts in the extra hours.
Not real vocal, but has earned the respect of his teammates.
Good program player with easy-going personality |
|
Reading Defense |
Good job of scanning
the field and attacking the soft spots and making progression
reads. |
|
Pocket Presence |
Classic pocket passer
with a tendency to get too creative. Not good at sensing back
side pressure. |
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Game
Mgt |
Has too much
confidence in arm strength and will force throws |
|
Setup Footwork |
Adequate. Has been
known to throw off wrong foot (causing ball to float) |
|
Release Point |
Quick over-the-top
release. |
|
Gen'l Accuracy |
Throws too many picks
due to low trajectory. |
|
Arm
Strength |
Good enough to make
deep throws |
|
Short Throws |
Lacks consistency -
doesn't always establish rhythm. |
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Deep
Balls |
Can vary his speed
while accurate enough to squeeze ball into tight spaces. Lacks
consistency on fades and deep routes - not all that accurate. |
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Deep
Out |
N |
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Mobility |
Classic pocket passer
who lacks speed to escape pressure. |
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Intangibles |
Not adept at playing
thru pain - some question his mental toughness. |
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Resembles: |
Ken Dorsey,
Elvis Grbac |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
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7 |
John David
Booty, USC |
6-2
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216 |
4.83 |
-- |
1.68 |
2.77 |
22 |
8-2 |
4.59 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Had a position workout only, kept everything else from the combine.
BRS (Gollin)
- Is he too much of a system passer and not enough of a playmaker?
Sporting News War Room - Shows the arm, accuracy and athleticism
to become a good NFL starter. But to do so, Booty must improve his
footwork and technique.
Surefire Scouting - Booty did not enjoy a stellar senior season.
His injury history and lack of ideal size and arm strength will
initially limit him to a back up role. He is a hard worker and may
eventually work his way into a line up. He is more of a game manager
at this point.
PFW
- A pure pocket passer with functional arm strength. Booty is a west
coast rhythm passer who will need to play in an offense that features
a lot of short crossers and slants to be effective.
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Physical |
Linear build with
adequate muscle thickness. Good size for position. |
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Leadership |
Take charge attitude
in huddle and his teammates respect him. |
|
Reading Defense |
Not all that quick at
decision-making. Will lapse into streaks where he locks on
primary target |
|
Pocket Presence |
Adequate toughness but
will look a bit confused when flushed. Decent blitz and stunt
awareness and knows how to adjust to these. |
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Game
Mgt |
Nothing specific
mentioned. |
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Setup Footwork |
Sluggish and
inconsistent. |
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Release Point |
Decent release but
mostly 3/4. Will drop down and wind up too frequently |
|
Gen'l Accuracy |
Might be better suited
to play in a west coast system than in a vertical attack. |
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Arm
Strength |
Can make all the
throws |
|
Short Throws |
Nice zip but lacks
consistency. Good accuracy and timing. More effective throwing
inside the hashmarks than toward the sidelines. Better throwing
from the right hash. |
|
Deep
Balls |
Lacks explosive
release to consistently air it out. Ball tends to float. Lacks
consistent touch. |
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Deep
Out |
Better throwing over
the middle than to the sidelines |
|
Mobility |
Good acceleration,
balance and agility but won't scare anyone with his foot speed
or cutback skills. At best throwing out of pocket. |
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Intangibles |
Comes from football
family and great college program at USC. Takes businesslike
approach to managing the game and has been tutored well. Needs
more than a few reps to retain play info. More a functional
passer who lacks creativity. |
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Resembles: |
Patrick Ramsay,
Matt Schaub |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
|
8 |
Andre'
Woodson, Kentucky |
6-4
|
227 |
4.86 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
27
|
9-1 |
4.33 |
-- |
7.28 |
-- |
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Pro Day -
Ran the 40 in 4.86 and 4.88, had a 27½-inch vertical jump
(disappointing), 9-foot, 1-inch long jump, 4.33 short shuttle, and
7.28 cone drill.
BRS (Gollin)
- Some guys improve their fundamentals and develop into solid QB's.
For others, the light bulbs never seem to go on. Fundamentals
translate to good mechanics which, in turn translate to consistency
which can take an NFL quarterback a long way..
Sporting News War Room - A frustrating QB to evaluate. He has all
the physical tools to be a good NFL signal caller but must greatly
improve his mechanics and accuracy...on occasions he does
everything right and becomes a game breaking QB, but must
significantly improve his fundamentals.
Surefire Scouting - His biggest drawback may be lack of mobility,
which is partially offset by his outstanding pocket presence and
footwork. His accuracy and decision-making are advanced, and he could
compete for a starting role immediately.
PFW
- A bigger, thicker version of Jason Campbell. He'll need a clean
pocket to function in the pros because of his lack of mobility. Could
be good in time/never great.
|
Physical |
More of a basketball
than QB frame. Tall, athletic with long limbs, large hands and
smooth muscled tone, but tends to add weight too readily
|
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Leadership |
Leads by example more
than by decibel. Could afford to be more vocal but not
comfortable assuming that role |
|
Reading Defense |
Field vision has
improved. Quick to make presnap reads and call audibles.
(Coaches give him that freedom). No longer locks onto primary
target. |
|
Pocket Presence |
One of the toughest
guys in the pocket you'll ever see. Would rather eat the ball
than throw into tight spaces. Knows how to move around to buy
time on busted plays. Must learn to throw ball away rather than
take sacks. Fumble issues. |
|
Game
Mgt |
Good clock manager.
Has mental make-up to call his own game and pick up stunts and
blitzes |
|
Setup Footwork |
Sets up quickly with
good throwing mechanics and precision in the intermediate
game. Footwork is inconsistent (will throw off back foot too
often) |
|
Release Point |
Throws too often with
a windup motion |
|
Gen'l Accuracy |
Inconsistent
|
|
Arm
Strength |
Can throw the ball
downfield effortless. Strong enough to make throws from the
opposite hash. |
|
Short Throws |
Lacks consistent
accuracy in short game (mainly when throwing toward sidelines)
|
|
Deep
Balls |
Has the velocity to
throw deep on the move. Has developed better touch on deep
throws. Most effective deep vs. Cover 2 defenses |
|
Deep
Out |
Can make throw with
good consistency. |
|
Mobility |
Can buy time
scrambling and can throw on the move. Good balance. But runs too
straight up. |
|
Resembles: |
Jason Campbell |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 |
BP |
10 |
20 |
VJ |
BJ |
20S |
60S |
3C |
Wun |
|
9 |
Paul Smith, Tulsa |
6-1
|
208 |
4.98 |
-- |
1.65 |
2.88 |
27 |
9-3 |
4.31 |
-- |
7.03 |
-- |
|
Pro Day -
Had a very good workout throwing the football. Stuck with all his
numbers from the combine
BRS (Gollin)
- Another Montana-type (i.e. poor man's Matt Ryan). The next Joe
Cool? Or the next Rich Mirer?
Sporting
News War Room - Smith has shown the productivity and rare
intangibles to give him a shot at being an NFL starter. He isn't
impressive in terms of physique or arm strength, but consistently
makes plays..
Surefire
Scouting - Smith had a solid showing at both the Hula Bowl and
Shrine games. He is an ideal fit for a west coast scheme. In spite of
his physical shortcomings, Smith will have a long and productive NFL
career as a situational starter and top-notch backup.
PFW -
Might be the next Jeff Garcia in six or seven years. |
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Physical |
Short
and slight frame. ... Not impressive physically |
|
Leadership |
Natural playmaker. ... Coach's son and plays with the instincts
to prove it. ... Better player than his skill set would lead you
to believe |
|
Reading Defense |
Understands the offense and will check down to secondary
receivers if his first option is covered. |
|
Pocket Presence |
Poised
even when pressured.
Elusive in the pocket and keeps his eyes downfield |
|
Game
Mgt |
No comments |
|
Setup Footwork |
Quick
in his drop back, set-up and delivery. |
|
Release Point |
Extends his wind-up for longer throws |
|
Gen'l Accuracy |
No comments |
|
Arm
Strength |
Lacks
the preferred arm strength |
|
Short Throws |
Possesses good zip on his underneath routes. |
|
Deep
Balls |
s and
can float deep passes |
|
Deep
Out |
No comments |
|
Mobility |
No comments
|
|
Misc. |
Perfectly suited to Tulsa's offense and his statistics are
greatly inflated. ... . ... . ... . ... Marginal level of
competition. |
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Resembles: |
No comments |
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Rnk |
Player |
Ht |
Wt |
40 | |